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PUMA Deviate NITRO Elite Trail | First Run & Review
Mar 15, 2025
The Big Cat is loose! Mike P takes the new PUMA Deviate NITRO Elite Trail out of the box for a solid first test run. Yes, it's T-shirt time ! The trails are opening up and that means more fun! Go for a run with Mike across a mix of runnable, fast, steep, and rocky trails around the Boise foothills.
Is this new CAT a viable trail super shoe contender?
Stay tuned at the end for a special look at some comparable options!
Multi Tester Written RoadTrailRun review soon!
Also please check out Mike P's running content including extensive A/B testing @HumbleRunning
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*** NOTE ON SAMPLE WEIGHT: The left shoe of the sample I received weighed in at 264g, and the right shoe 274g. 10g (0.35 oz) difference is on the large side for test samples. We are reaching out to PUMA to see if this is possibly a manufacturing defect. ***
00:00 Lacing up / specs
02:51 Let's go!
04:08 Heel hold, stability ?
06:33 20% grade, stiffness?
09:38 Close up
17:06 SPEED?
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hello everyone today is an exciting day out on the trails I've got the Puma DV8
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Nitro Elite Trail in for test did I did I get that right Puma devi8 Nitro Elite
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Trail yes I did this is going to be my first run in this shoe I got this shoe a couple days
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ago walk my daughter to school in them and that's it as far as them being
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outside Outdoors on the ground very excited to test these out latest Super Shoe from Puma I think this is going to
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be a real tender just based on how it felt walking around the house you got super critical nitrogen TPU foam with a
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very energetic carbon fiber plate I could feel the energy just walking around inside my house so very excited
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to get these on the trail and see if these are really going to be a super shoe Contender for 2025 so yes I
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definitely wanted to try these on in my little intro here just to
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demonstrate kind of the f that I got I obviously tried them on inside the house
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I walked around a little bit got these here Ultra weave upper as it says here
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there's a few interesting features about this upper that I'll probably take a stop after I run in a while get a feel
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for them and then I'll dig a little deeper in but as you can see I've got these in a US 9 and a
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half got about I'd say 3/4 of a thumbs width here but the fit is just perfect
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you can see as a I Lac these up not even having to Snug
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them down you could see how this upper on the sides really didn't move at all just at
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least for my foot perfect tensioning feels like a perfect foothold again I'm going to have to get these out on the
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trail all right so let's
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go I did bring along a few shoes with me that I have initial thoughts
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that they may be comparables I'll go through my run I want to do a kind of solid run here and
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then I'll see if what I thought pre-run matches what I kind of feel Post run so
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I have them in the truck I'm going to save the big comper reveal for post
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run another warm day out here I think we're going to hit 60Ā°
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I was testing Brooks Catamount 4 and version 3
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yesterday and it was also quite warm I don't plan on coming back to the car for
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a refill button these guys up all right let's go
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[Music] So the plan here is to get solid say 10
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to 15 miles in today had a little Hill coming out of that parking lot may have to catch my breath before I keep talking
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here this is my first run in this shoe first uh almost a mile on foot now still
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getting used to them run a bit more before I chime in a bit I'm super pumped to be testing the shoe for the moment I
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saw it at TR I was I think I said it was the most exciting shoe that I saw there
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just the look of it the color the sleekness the foam nitrogen TPU even in
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hand it felt so good seeing the carbon plate knowing there was going to be a
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potential race option across not sure yet how much distance or duration but
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the fact that Puma seemingly bringing a road Super Shoe setup almost directly to
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the trails is very exciting so I will stop much later on look at the uppers
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very closely pop the shoes off for sure I just have to say right away heel hold
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is feeling really excellent the shape of It kind of wrapping around and above my
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heel bone especially you see the picture it's a
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carbon plate it's not forked in any way solid kind of Dipping spoon shape into
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the forefoot I'm not feeling any slippage at all I mean that's a great
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great impression for a carbon plated chew on the trails right out the box
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quick little Gully back there I like the way these Pumas handled that didn't sense any wobble kind of hit some rocks
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on the way across bit steep on the way down and I didn't really slow down too much can really feel that sense of uh
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unsteadiness BS well for stability so far so I am going a little bit higher today
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it's been dry so I should be able to get some good more rugged terrain here I do want to test stability of the shoe being
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such a high stack being carbon plated really need to get some thoughts on that
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right away quick specs here I've got these speced at 3630 6 mil drop I manually measured them
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and I did get 38 mm at the heel So based on that I would say 38 32 when I stop
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for a closeup we're going to take a closer look at that weight is coming in at 9.5 oz in my sample us 9.5 that's 269
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G please see a note down in the description below about that measured
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weight I'll try to keep the most upto-date information regarding the weight in the
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description below so take a quick scan on that one
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ground platform here I measured 106 at the 4T 69 midf foot and 81 at the heel
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check my what I wrote on my hand the midfoot and the heel pretty standard for a lot
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of trail shoes I wouldn't say nothing out of the ordinary 106 under the 4ot is
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a bit narrow especially for a higher stack some of those higher stack shoes especially Super Shoes do have a wider
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4ot base so that's something I'm going to key in on again thinking about stability out here on the trails uneven
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terrain it's narrower under the 4 foot than most shoes kind of in this stack
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range so it did make it up that hill pretty well traction I tell is very good
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I mean you've only got 3 mil lugs but on kind of steep sandy stuff I
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wasn't really noticing too much slipping maybe a couple times um some of those spots were a
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little pebbly and stuff I mean stuff is just going to roll no matter what so
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yeah heading up that hill there it flecks pretty well climbing a lot of Stack got a plate there it didn't feel
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overly rigid where I had trouble climbing couple little wobbles at times
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you know with uh going slower climbing Higher Ground contact time sometimes
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especially if the legs are tired get a little extra wobble then you would at
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PACE in these again cuz it's just reacting so quick off the ground but for
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me I'd say nothing that's not manageable I did not feel Tippy at all feel pretty
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stable it's really good so far so continuing on here hang
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right head up that hill probably hike it so I could talk a little bit about the
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shoe 6 mil drop sounds about right feels
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accurate doesn't feel like eight doesn't feel like four spot on kind of in line with other six mil drop shoes sometimes
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you know that could be questionable depending on the brand and model so I said 38 I measured under the heel that
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puts 32 under the 4ot and that 4 feels great 32 feels like a lot very cushioned
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uh no bottoming out very Dynamic lot of energy you can feel that impulse from
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the plate in conjunction with the Nitro foam also I don't feel any rocks getting
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through very protective I don't feel any of these points right now getting to my
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foot the cushion feels great front
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midfoot rear again kind of jamming on some pointy stuff here nothing is
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jabbing me in the bottom of the foot that's excellent also I don't feel the firmness from the plate especially under
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the forefoot I don't aside from kind of the propulsion I don't feel any firm
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plate anywhere under my foot that's also very good just passed a guy hiking in
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the new SI Ultra Glide I told him these were better sorry hot take they're
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cheaper too all right I'm 45 minutes in here good time to take a look at the upper
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you'll notice I've got a US 9 and A2 they felt a little bit snug when I first
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put them on I'm going to pop them off in a second here I put my thin socks on I was a little concerned they might be
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tight but after only you know 45 minutes feel like definitely got a little bit more space I
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mean the way I laced them you could see there's no bunching these fit my foot
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like a glove so I'd say if you have a medium foot you'll definitely want to go true to size here my toe is here so I'd
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say that's a little less than a full thumbs width if I wanted to wear thicker
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socks and if I I wasn't sure distance-wise about these if I was thinking about going for a 100 mile 100K
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kind of distance I probably want to go with a 10 especially now that I know that the heel hold is so good in this
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shoe I probably want to go with a thicker sock and size up by a half but
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you could definitely go true to size if you're going to wear medium or thinner weight socks with these if you have a
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narrow foot you'll definitely have no problem with these you can snug these down maybe if you have a very wide foot
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you may want to go half size up right away just cuz it's really like a race
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type fit really good couple details I'll point out here
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the lacing is somewhat interesting you have this power tape kind of I guess
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that gives some structure to the foothold but then you have a wider Gap here you have eyelets here and then a
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wider Ghillie here and you have a kind of a space over the top of the foot and this is actually you know this is my
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foot right here I guess that's the top bone or part of my foot and the laces are you know going right around that and
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it kind of gives some zonal separation between down here and typically I like
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to lace maybe the one or two top rows pretty tight and leave this loose in a lot of shoes and I think this really
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helps with that because it doesn't pull the tension across you know it doesn't
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even it out to the bottom where you don't want it it gives kind of a separate section down here and here I haven't seen this um or maybe I just
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haven't paid attention you know this this kind of spacing between the bottom and the top I haven't seen that before
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so that's interesting and I like it this here it's not stretchy um you may think
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of some of the Hoka models there this is just I it's for
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breathability I guess it kind of separates the section of the upper here
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maybe inherently gives a little bit more flexibility to the upper but this itself
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doesn't stretch lacing them off here the tongue is pretty thin not
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really padded at all there's a few perforations but I don't notice any I
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think cuz the fit is so good and the wrap is so good I don't notice any lace bite at all so even though there's an
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absence of padding here they do give a nice soft edging there's no hard edges around here so that's nice um gusseted
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on both Sid the gusset is just this foamy kind of thing it looks actually pretty cheap but I I guess it's just not
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so the tongue doesn't move around because the fit is so good I don't think it really matters but you know it just
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looks kind of cheap on the inside I talked about measuring and how I measure 2 Ms higher for the stack at
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the heel there's not a traditional insole there's kind of like this layer
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here that's pretty thick that it may be about 3 Ms of a kind of a foam
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insert that is glued down so this black part here it's got some perforations it's not an insole I can't
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take that out it's glued to the bottom of the shoe so it looks it's more than 2
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mm I'm pretty sure of that so however they measured um their 36 maybe they
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included that but didn't include the lugs or or or something going on there but that seems to give I guess a little
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extra stack on top of whatever they measured so I do have 38 like I said
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that I measured and that this part goes all the way through to the 4ot and I'm
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really trying to see what it is it's just it's a it's a closed cell
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it's not an ortholite type of thing it's very soft and it it has a really great
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feeling under fooot I can imagine this probably top layer contouring over time
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to the shape of the bottom of your foot which would be really nice nice um it I mean it feels nice out of the box um but
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perhaps you'll get even more customization out of that the foam Nitro
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TPU I don't notice too much you know there's different sections here I'm not certain if
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they're they feel about the same I don't think they're any different in terms of
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softness again that plate is in there let's I don't it's a carbon plate this
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is a plasticky thing I don't know what if that just gives maybe support under
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the arch so you don't kind of collapse down too much being that it's a softer
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kind of TPU not sure what about that there but quick
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Flex you know with a carbon fiber plate full carbon you know not forked anything
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like that this is a decent amount of torsional flex I have to say and and
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look at the the rear also and the same I I never like bending them in half that
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always people do that and I don't like to do that with my shoes but just get a
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sense of it it flexes pretty well but then yeah it's stiff this way so when
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you push into it yeah you'll get that propulsion but as I said I was going up those Hills up and down and it didn't
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seem like stiff like if my heel was wanting to pull out it just seemed like it was flexing pretty well on the climb
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so really excellent performance outs soole there yeah they're not you know mud
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designer they're 3 mil so that's kind of low but I didn't really have any issue I think this shoe was really designed for
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fast runnable terrain anyway and this stuff you know this is
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kind of like what I'm running on and dirt and sand and it's gripping very well in this
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so it for me it's great so far all right let's head back out again
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lacing up I think I wanted to leave this left one a little looser this
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time tighten this up and you see those didn't move at all so I like
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that and let's take a look at the heel I mean it's the shoe is bending the
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shoe is flexing and my heel is is is in there you know it's
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not not moving a millimeter not pulling out at all it's great but what about the
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speed how fast is this shoe is it going to rip out here
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well I'm about to head on down there wind my way down there zip around
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and down I think I'll be able to go pretty
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fast get up Pace check on here once I get going all right let's see 540 per
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mile
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cruising flat section here 545 yeah
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un extended very steep descent little bit of sliding forward here not
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excessive but little bit so that was exciting
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about 9/10 of a mile descent there a
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little under 6 minutes average paste in a shoe that I've had on my feet
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for only about five or 6 miles definitely fun I am going to have to go
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back up though so let's go oh I haven't been here quite a while through the
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winter this will be fun nice and Scenic
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too really excellent ride here this kind of rolling mix single track just feels
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smooth doesn't feel overly High has That
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Bouncy feel yeah still feels controlled don't feel like
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I'm in a full wild Road Super Shoe es
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kind of stability level here feels a little bit more tamed the cat is tamed a
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little bit for the trail so just hit about 6 and 1/2 miles about an hour in I
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am going to I'm do an out and back here so I'll get a solid 13 in I just kind of
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want to run this Trail back down on the slight descent just think it'll be
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really fun instead of kind of going up and around for a big loop maybe another day maybe another comparison test so I
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ran that last descent there 3/4 of a mile 618 Pace I was just really letting
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the leges turn over wasn't really trying to run fast uh I thought it'd be fun it was fun
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Sho great that kind of scenario running fast quick
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cruising great now I do have to run back over to
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the other side though he might have caught me have a
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little twist on a rock back there something I alluded to earlier stability
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is really good relative to this being a high stack carbon plated Super Shoe of
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course ground feel is pretty muted in these you have the plate in between I
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don't feel the ground too much it's bouncy on top of that very energetic if
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you hit an uneven spot like that especially I'd say at slower Paces
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slower Paces that lingering ground contact time I think you'll have more
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instability there if I'm running quicker maybe on a descent or whatever my ground
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contacts are so much quicker so much shorter that even if there's a slight
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wobble at times I'm just getting off the ground so quick that it's not as bad I
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mean I really have to test this shoe out a lot more but I would say one thing I have to
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pay attention to is whether this shoe is going to work at slower Paces or at
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least it could possibly not be as stable
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at slower Paces quick upper check-in here about 8 and 1/2 miles no hot spots
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nothing on the big toe nothing on the pinky side nothing around the ankle
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collar the heel no issues at all even with this kind of racy fit I don't
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there's nothing popping out at me that could potentially be a concern over
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time kind of manage the shoe through that little steep and rocky area back
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there yeah it's it's a little high and the bounciness you do have to be careful and
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Rocky uneven terrain like that especially if it's Steep and especially
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if if you're going downhill I kind of dialed back my steps a bit made sure I
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was getting good Landings on my midfoot I was still able to you know run pretty
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quickly through there it's just not plowing through with abandon you know
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that's that's something I guess with experience a lot of shoes more experienced Runners can get better
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technical range out of them cuz you just kind of know when you need to manage your massage a shoe through a particular
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area I'm coming up on a big Rocky descent on the other side of one of
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these Mounds here that'll be somewhere in that dip there that's the one I climbed up earlier should be a good test
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I am kind of hitting more downhills on the way back here I am noticing that instability a little bit more I guess on
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the way out more uphill didn't notice it too much on the way back steeper
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descents those rocks you definitely have to uh massage them through probably
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overly technical areas if there's space for your footsteps and it's just a
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little bit uneven they're fine but stuff like that last section where it's just Rocky with the Ste this you kind of
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don't have as much time to react that's when you got to be careful in these for sure but that's not necessarily
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different than any of the other high stack Super
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Shoes all right so I'm going to cruise on back down through that Gully there
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back around to the car and then check out some comps
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little water there for good measure see how they feel when I get back to the car should be about 15 minutes or so didn't
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bring my scale though have to go based on feel with this one all right back at the truck first
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check quick wet test not as extensive as my one on humble running
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but let's see socks wet obviously very thin mesh here you could
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see my hand through through the mesh this is nonabsorptive you know a little damp cuz my sock was in there the tongue
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again synthetic mesh there's really nothing to soak into
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inside this shoe if I weigh this I would be surprised if it gained anything
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noticeable so looking at comps here this is the shoe I wore on my way here Brooks
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Catamount 4 this is also plated but it has a paback plate late a little bit
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different feel I had these shoes side by side in the house cuz I was doing uh Catamount 3
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vers 4 AB test yesterday and it was noticeable how the carbon impulse was
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much more Dynamic than the packs the paback feel feels good on the run I notice it compared to say a nonstiff
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non-plated shoe but compared to the carbon that's in here this one's just
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more Dynamic the foam is bouncier the fit on this one definitely
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wider noticeable room in the toe box here surely a racy fit in this one
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you'll definitely have more space I do have this one in a 10 and this is a 9 and 1/2 yeah so some of those steep
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ascents back there that's where having maybe a half size up us10 again N9 and a
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half here that may come into play I did notice a little bit of foot slipping forward I didn't get too jammed up in
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the front of the toe box but if I I was thinking for long distances of course foot swelling I I probably definitely
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want to have a a 10 in here um but aside from just the half sizee difference this
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is broader more spacious in general even if this was in a 10 next option I've got here this is an
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oldie but a goodie salony endorphin Edge this shoe has been discontinued I
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thought of this shoe right away um for one the colors of course another is very
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aggressive carbon plate I knew what the plate looked like in this one you know not forked anything like that this one
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has a very aggressive carbon plate very bouncy power run PB foam and this is something that it's kind of wild on the
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trail I would say they ride similarly the stack is noticeably higher than this one this one definitely feels I don't
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know what the stack was on this one I have to double check that but the PB foam definitely packed down a bit at
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this point I feel way closer to the ground and this shoe here here in terms of the uppers this is just there's a lot
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of loose odd areas in this upper was never a strong point of this shoe unless
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perhaps you had a high volume foot I struggled like some spots were tight some spots were like a little weird heel
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hold was not that great great upper in here both energetic
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carbon plated rides stack height is definitely you know the Foams are bouncy
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kind of similar in that regard but the stack height is more in this one this is really could be a longer distance shoe
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this one really not so much let's see I got two more here I got
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the meta Fuji Trail this I thought you know it's carbon plated very stiff this
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is this shoe was I I almost didn't I almost forgot how stiff this is you can almost not Bend this shoe but it's so
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soft underf fooot I guess that feeling is somewhat similar but this is very
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unforgiving in terms of ability if you look at what's going on Under Foot here
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this is just so narrow and and there's such a bulbous amount of foam under the
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front here it it's very teety th this is way more stable I mean so I I just don't
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really know about this shoe especially now that this one is out I couldn't see
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why you would want to go for this one if you wanted to have that real kind of cushy bouncy feel underfoot with a plate
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I think you get get all that with this shoe and it's more stable and the upper is better the upper here is just it's
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okay it's nice and wide and comfortable but it's it's not so dialed you know I have to kind of really tension it to get
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a good hold here and again it's just generally unstable so it's not a shoe I
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really am in love with it's not a shoe that I really like perhaps I I may do some AB testing with this one perhaps
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against another shoe that I have next in line just just to kind of I don't know
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reset my thoughts maybe it's I don't know we'll see and last but not least the Adidas
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terx agravic speed Ultra another one with a long name Puma deviate Nitro
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Elite Trail I would say right off the bat these are two runnable plated super
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and these are plastic carbon rods in this one but has a similar effect of the carbon plates that are in their Road
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shoes may have to try these on side by side I feel like this one feels a bit
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higher if you look again similar to the metap Fuji look how narrow this Adidas
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is the the stability on this one is just it's just lacking you know that's just what you're dealing with they tried to
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offset it by giving you a wide huge forefoot you have to run aggressively on the forfoot forward lean in the shoe to
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make it work um you have to be at faster Paces you have to be a good runner strong ankles everything to run in this
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shoe I think this one is probably going to be more versatile for most Runners it
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has a more for giving ride and has a more standard width under the midfoot and also the
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heel it's just going to it's definitely more stable than this shoe I'm not sure
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about the speed yet I haven't run in this shoe in a while I have to have a kind of refresher on this one to see if
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I feel like this shoe is faster they both have that kind of bouncy midso type of energetic feel I
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want to say this one feels like it has more pop but again I'm going to have to have a refresher on this one to get a
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feel for it again the upper fit on this one definitely night and day much better
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this you know you see my little thing here this heel is is just not good
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there's weird people have weird foot issues with it being too long but then
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too wide and just like having to do strange lacing to get a ankle hold it's just something they really need to
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dial in with the next version I mean they need to go with the shape and the setup of this upper on
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this shoe and it'll make it work better I'm sure even with this midsole kind of
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platform setup here if you had a dialed upper like this on top of this Sole and
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outsole unit it would make the instability feel a little bit better cuz at least you'd feel that your foot is
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strapped to the shoe properly and you're not like fighting kind of a high toll
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stack versus fighting your foot feeling insecure in the shoe
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so these are my line I I think those are pretty good comps um I'd have to go back and look around and see if there's
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something else um that popped out at me but again I wanted to you know there's definitely good shoes if you checked my
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recent reviews um my recent AB tests there's a lot of other good shoes but unplated okay so I wanted to just check
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on the plated options here here first of all again this is my first run I got about I think it was 151 a little over
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13 miles so solid lots more testing to come love it the ride was excellent
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can't think of too many negatives aside from having to manage some stability but I think that goes with the territory
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with this type of shoe again look for a full multitester review on road tril
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run.com and continue testing of this shoe I'll definitely check back back in as I
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continue to pile on and add up the miles in the shoe thank you for
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watching all right I'm back at the house now I did have one slight concern I
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wanted to point out and I think it was after going through those slight water
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Crossings it's this top Edge right here I started feeling a little bit on the
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back of my achilles not um yeah okay it's not that
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bad a little bit towards the end again after
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I think the water with my sock being wet made it feel a little bit more noticeable there that is
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something I do want to take a look
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at I have maybe slight irritation it's not a blister or anything like
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that this is from before it's always on and off
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but looking at that right here it is a little interesting that they went so
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high with this Edge it's not a full flare out it's like
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kind of a half flare it's just high it's soft in here but at the top it's not
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totally rigid but a little bit I don't know it's kind of like in between it's a
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little bit of a weird set up I don't know why they went so high with this and if they were going to go with a flare
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perhaps they could have you know angle this out a little more as most of them tend to
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be that is an area I will pay close attention to I felt it more on my left
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foot towards the end which is weird because normally I feel those kinds of things on my right foot
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typically um yeah anyway definitely something to point out
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um maybe if you're sensitive it's a high Achilles collar now that I'm looking at
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it more closely yeah more extensive testing to come on this it's back there
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that may be a situation it's all right sure I'll cut
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it no problem it's only YouTube it's not real
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