Saucony Endorphin Elite 2: Total Game Changer! IncrediRun Indeed! A Ground Breaking Supershoe
Dec 9, 2024
In the video, we 00:000 detail the Endorphin Elite 2, take them for a run on the NH Seacoast and comment on 07:33 Fit, 09:00 Ride, and Comparisons with at 14:29 Conclusions.
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0:00
hello everybody we're going to take a
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look today at this socony endorphin
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Elite 2 one of the most exciting shoes I
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think I've run since the original
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vaporfly it's truly groundbreaking with
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an incred run uh foam tpe foam which is
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soft yet super energetic it's stable it
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weighs uh 7.18 oun 203 G in the US 8.5
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sample it has the full Super Shoe uh
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stack height 392
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312 it is one heck of a shoe video will
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cover uh fit ride uh and comparisons as
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I run along the beautiful New Hampshire
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SEO stay tuned okay everybody we're
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going to take a look at the sakon
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Endorphin Elite 2 look at this beauty
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and uh Sak's really striking kind of
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radical here radical fun I've already
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run in them once almost took down a
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straa segment PR about a half mile
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segment in super cold and wind my son's
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been out on them he's liking them better
1:04
than the um SC Elite uh number four
1:08
we're also going to take a look and talk
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a bit about some of the competitors
1:13
namely uh the alphal fly and both of
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these um both of the cloud boom strikes
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just got this one in today oh my
1:21
goodness look at that 6.3 ounces 178 G
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uh so uh let's talk about our endorphin
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Elite here
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so it's uh $275 it's coming out in the
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spring basically it has the same Max
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super um shoe stack height as most of
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the shoes 39 1/2 heel
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312 4ot uh this sample is a US 8.5 that
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s can he sent us and it weighs 7.2 o 203
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gam uh in the US 8.5 so that's very
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competitive with the alpha fly in my
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size which comes in at 6.93 Oz and the
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regular Cloud boom uh strike which comes
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in at 7.18 oz so the the big story here
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and it's so noticeable is this incred
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foam incred run foam it's a
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TP um so we saw at the running event
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many many shoes with etpu or
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TP it's really going to replace the
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packs that we have in say the um Ally or
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the cloud boom strike uh which I think
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the cloud boom strike has some other uh
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foam as the top helon level because you
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get incredible softness with lots of
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explosive rebound very very very
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pleasing experience in my first run here
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um in them so you you really get a lot
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of energy uh return without punishment
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and I think this is a really good Trend
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because I remember the original um
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vaporfly the the baby blue one back
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2017 18 that was a forgiving shoe and
3:09
then things went pretty darn aggro but
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there's a trend back towards uh a shoe
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that's a uh with these new Foams that's
3:17
more energetic and softer I have not
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tested the um meta speed um Paris Edge
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The Edge Paris or the sky but that one's
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said to have a a really energetic softer
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foam at least softer than
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before uh this foam is softer than say
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in the evo1 from Adidas it's a little
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bit firmer but some of the same
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characteristics um and you'll see it
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looks like super Bulba super huge well
3:48
the platform here is really comparable
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to the other uh two the alphafly and the
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cloud boom strike we have an 85 mm heel
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for example the uh Alpha fly
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is
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85 and but what's different here is we
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have a uh 70 mm at the broadest Point
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through the midfoot and only 35 here and
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what I'm finding already with this
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softer foam and what they say is a
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slotted new carbon plate is this Gap
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here gets me forward to tow off much
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easier I think than in a more rigid shoe
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and I think that's good for some of us
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who maybe aren't quite as uh
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uh 4 foot to midfoot and I doubt many
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can keep the 4 foot to midfoot going all
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the way the first um endorphin Elite was
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quite a bit firmer it had that HD power
4:42
run HD foam it was rigid uh this is a
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completely different experience I
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noticed right away and I'm going to take
4:49
him out for another run here maybe try
4:51
to break that segment uh after I tried
4:55
yesterday Without Really Trying uh you
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really have a sensation here of a soft
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heel Landing that has a lot of rebound a
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tremendous amount of rebound for the
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softness so this is a no way mushy and
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then you roll very easily through the 4
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foot and I think that's in part all due
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to the soft foam but also this Gap here
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and the narrower um narrower midfoot now
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we'll see about uh stability it seemed
5:24
pretty darn stable uh but in later miles
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uh so we'll have to get some longer run
5:29
some races in them now the upper is in a
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really interesting very breathable
5:35
engineered mesh you can see it's almost
5:38
completely open one thing I noticed
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right away um and this may be uh
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potentially an issue for me is look how
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firm that tow bumper is it's very it's
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high there's plenty of it's definitely
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true to size here but there's a bit of
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constriction through here and I'll show
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you on the run a picture right you know
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right about uh
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right about where uh my uh let's see the
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bunions on the inside right about here
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right about in here uh a little bit of
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tightness this could maybe be opened up
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um I think the shoe will will stretch
6:12
some now we have a a knit tongue Sally
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our other reviewer uh has a very narrow
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foot she's having some lace bite issues
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through here I didn't uh this is one of
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these uppers as you can see with these
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strap the strapping for for support
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that I don't think you want to lace up
6:32
too overly tight or you get that bite I
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didn't have any we have plenty of
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padding and you can see how much higher
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it reaches up than nor than kind of
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usual there's less on the side it's all
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right up here in the Achilles area uh so
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that part was really comfortable and
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there's sort of an overlaid um uh
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material that creates kind of a heel
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counter but there isn't really a big
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heel counter here um the other thing to
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notice and maybe I can show you is you
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can see that
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yellowish there that's the side walls it
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support other side as well and I think
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they're pretty effective giving all this
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soft foam and that narrow uh
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midfoot so um I'm going to take them out
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for a second run give you my Impressions
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but from the first one I got to tell you
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this is a completely different and kind
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of marvelous marvelous experience in a
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super shoe so let's go for the Run
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okay let's talk about the fit of our
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endorphin Elite number two I would call
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it a TR to size fit um there's a few
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caveats I'm feeling some bunion pressure
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here I think it'll stretch out uh you
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can see the length maybe a touch less
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than the full thumb but this toe bumper
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is really firm I think it really locks
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the foot down well but this through here
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seems a bit narrow when you go further
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back everything is really really good uh
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midfoot hole for me is is really good um
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I haven't had to lace them overly tight
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this knit tongue with this upper piece
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here I think that sort of helps through
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there and the heel hold is really good
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there's no real heel counter but I think
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the higher um achilles colar with the
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padding up top is something I haven't
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seen before they usually put it on the
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side so what that allows them to do is
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keep I think it allows them to keep the
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sides snug they're easy to pull on with
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the knit tongue but then they're locked
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in really good uh it's really quite
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quite surprising uh actually uh this
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upper very breathable just have some
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concerns about that width I think people
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with that area of the foot being wide
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having a wide area there may struggle a
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bit it's pretty rare that I have any
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bunion irritation very rare I think
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they'll stretch out some maybe tomorrow
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and tomorrow's snowstorm I'll get them
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wet but I'm going to keep going okay
8:59
starting out with some slower paced
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running I'm about 930 Pace here
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and just as easy to turn over as any
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training shoe with lots of rebound so it
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goes slow paac is really nice is really
9:20
nice unlike like for example the alpha
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fly I barely could turn them over at
9:25
this pace too rigid here we're sinking
9:28
into that credy run rebounding quickly
9:31
off the heel surprisingly stable I think
9:36
sometimes the instability in super shoes
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that we note even though this platform
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is the same as all the rest pretty much
9:44
is comes from the firm foam combination
9:48
with the rigid
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plate and here we've got a softer foam
9:55
plate we're not sure just how rigid it
9:57
is there's a teeny bit of flex
9:59
you know Carbon
10:01
flex but things are very smooth at slow
10:06
pace now yesterday I did a progression a
10:11
little less than four miles and I got
10:14
down nicely below 8 minute pace with no
10:19
effort whatsoever felt just as good
10:23
super rebounding at that point so
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there's really a lot of range in this
10:28
shoe
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I'm going to keep
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going okay so if there's one way to
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describe the experience here is it is
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super Pleasant hard to believe that such
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a high-end shoe could be so much fun
10:49
just
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surprisingly very very
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energetic
10:54
soft easy to roll it's really kind of
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amazing
10:59
and stable that's what really surprises
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me so far very
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stable uh which I would not have
11:07
expected with a soft
11:09
foam and I'm going to pick up the pace
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some they sure go fast fun too we'll get
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to that in a minute going by the harbor
11:19
here Ry Harbor nice quiet
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evening so now my pace is for this last
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mile well under eight 9 minute pace and
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easy as can be easy as can
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be so there's definitely the speed roll
11:36
in play out here especially when you get
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fast from what I'm doing right now right
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now just have an easy roll and a kind of
11:47
moderate impulse off the front but when
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you pick it up and get further forward
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you get a sharper response it's really
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the same with the foam it's
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soft so super pleasing but then when you
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pick it up you go down soft it responds
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super quickly it's really an amazing
12:11
package okay some are going to say soft
12:14
I remember saw for example the New
12:18
Balance SC Elite V2 and V3 well that was
12:22
just plain soft uh I found it quite
12:26
difficult to run the plate wasn't well
12:28
integrated
12:30
once you got into the syn into the soft
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it didn't return very well uh so you
12:35
just kind of got hung up uh so and then
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the other thing here is this is a TP
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foam not paback everybody a lot of
12:46
people a lot of brands have used packs
12:49
last few years but now they're starting
12:51
to move to the TPU
12:53
TP first ones I ran were in the xstep
12:57
racing shoes and our whole crew who
12:59
thought it was amazing the tpe there and
13:02
now we're seeing it much more in other
13:05
brands and this I think is a a real
13:10
Improvement in terms of comfort energy
13:15
return maybe it's not the ultimate
13:17
ultimate as you know tested by a steel
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ball in the lab but on your feet for a
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long or short race this stuff will make
13:26
you smile and it I think because it
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returns so quickly as you're running
13:34
once you
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sink it's just a better way to to
13:39
approach a long run too I would run them
13:43
I you know I was going to run a race uh
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tomorrow but it's going to snow and not
13:49
sure I want to do that and slippery with
13:51
my knee and everything but if um I would
13:55
certainly absolutely pick them up for a
13:58
5k because all that fun energy because
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of the stability so far I'd go I'd go a
14:05
10K a half and for a marathon I think so
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too you know it depends on your
14:10
preference but this one is likely to
14:13
have you smiling all the way it's just
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stable enough which really surprises me
14:18
given the soft foam and so energetic I'm
14:23
going to keep going and try for that
14:25
straa segment up up the road here okay
14:28
second running a Row in our endorphin
14:30
Elite uh number two and it was another
14:33
Beauty so I started out at uh like 930
14:37
Pace uh and then gradually picked it up
14:40
and I got my straa segment PR by a
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second um Ed up at about 902 pace for
14:46
the Run uh which is quite fast for me
14:49
for just going out um the perceived
14:53
effort here is very very low at that at
14:57
the what's kind of my you know slower
14:59
Tempo Paces there is just so much energy
15:02
coming from the the foam and the
15:06
geometry that works with the foam in the
15:08
plate you really you land you bounce you
15:11
roll forward and then a bit of the speed
15:13
Roll Effect off the front it's just very
15:16
very smooth very easygoing and super
15:20
Pleasant this is like an experience as
15:23
much as it's a fast shoe but it's a very
15:25
fast shoe for me anyway I think it'll be
15:28
a fast shoe
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and definitely definitely to be
15:31
considered by the mid-pack runner who
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maybe finds the more rigid firmer plated
15:36
shoes they uh you know they're just too
15:38
much for them but I think it'll also be
15:40
an elite shoe as named by saky I'm sure
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they've tested it uh with their Elites a
15:47
lot because it is really different a
15:50
different experience I would I'm going
15:53
to say and you know maybe I'm all
15:54
excited because I've had such two such
15:57
great runs uh in them so far and I
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haven't gone long long in them but
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they're stable they're plenty stable I'm
16:04
very surprised by that um despite this
16:07
narrow platform underf foot I'm not sure
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why or how but it maybe is because the
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foot is conforming as it rolls forward
16:16
instead of being rigidly kind of locked
16:19
in place so if you're more of a bit more
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of a heel Striker you'll roll through it
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whereas in conventional shoes for
16:26
example for me the alphafly 3 you know
16:29
if I'm not really forward uh they're
16:32
hard to run uh fast but hard to run um
16:35
but I'm going to say um and and there's
16:38
one other I could mention but this one's
16:40
just much more balanced that this is the
16:43
most exciting shoot single shoe that
16:46
I've run since the original vaporfly I
16:48
may change my mind but it is really
16:51
something else it's a different
16:53
experience it's a fast experience it's
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it's really something so we're going to
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have a multitester written review real
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soon for our socony endorphin Elite
17:04
number two completely different than
17:06
number one completely different than any
17:08
other super shoe and I've run most of
17:10
them except the A6 uh meta speed um uh
17:14
Paris Edge or uh Edge or uh sky so it's
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it'll be
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$275 priced like all the other ones in
17:23
this sort of category um it's uh it
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weighs only 7.2 o 203 G in my us uh 8.5
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so about 7.5 ounces in a nine so very
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competitive not the lightest but but
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certainly light enough certainly light
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on foot the magic is the incred Run uh
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TP tpe foam here the super soft and
17:48
super energetic foam uh thank you very
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much for watching oh yeah and I I should
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mention before that bunion issue much
17:57
less today it may just been a sock issue
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uh today I'm wearing some compressed
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Sport with their you know their PFT uh
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fibers uh reducing friction so I'm not
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didn't have as an issue today although
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it was only a 4 mile run so thank you
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very much for watching have a great run
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and lots of smiles


