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Johnny Dodgin discusses new Trailfly Pro shoe. Super light race-focussed machine!
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with Johnny who's a product line manager
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at Innovate and he's got something
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really exciting here. GoPro, Johnny.
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Yes. So, this is the new Trailfly Pro.
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Uh it's a top of the range trail shoe
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sitting above our other shoes in the
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Trail Fly franchise. This is a high
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performance running shoe designed for
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shorter distances up to 50k. So, say OCC
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at UTMB, that sort of distance. So, at
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the heart of the shoe is a TPE midsole.
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So really uh lightweight, comfortable
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step in with good energy return. We have
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34 uh mil stack height in the heel, 28
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in the forefoot for a 6 mil drop. We've
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also adapted the geometry of the shoe.
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So we've moved the rocker point of the
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geometry to 60% the length of the shoe
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to really help you get through your
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stride and up onto your toes and kind of
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move through really efficiently. It's
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incredibly lightweight as well. So, it's
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226 g, which is slightly under 8 o.
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US9. Yeah, that's right. So, so really
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lightweight. Feels really efficient on
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the foot. Lets you kind of carry your
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speed more naturally. So, I'm basically
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uh testing the shoe as part of the
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development. And what I found is that
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you kind of almost get free speed. Your
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speed kind of creeps up naturally. So
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paces that you might have on the road,
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let's say you're a 730 per mile kind of
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guy, h it will just drift up to like
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seven per mile just naturally.
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How do they feel on smooth terrain?
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Really, really fast. Yeah, really fast.
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Yeah. So, so it because it's so light,
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it almost feels like a road to trail
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shoe on buffed out trail, but it is also
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when you get on technical trail, it can
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handle that as well.
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So, if we move from the midsole to the
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outsole, um this is a really unique kind
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of feature of the shoe. what we wanted
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to do. So, Innovate is all about the uh
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foot controlling the shoe, not the other
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way around. So, we want a natural
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running experience. We want you to be
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able to use the natural physiology in
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your feet. So, this mapped outsole does
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three things. First off, it allows the
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midsole to compress and decompress and
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do what it needs to do for that energy
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return areas.
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In different areas. Yeah. Secondly, we
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wanted to map out the natural physiology
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of the foot. So, you can see the ball of
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the foot here, the big toe here. So, it
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lets you power off that uh those those
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fine muscles and ligaments in your feet.
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And then thirdly, at slower speeds on
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technical terrain, it will deform around
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the terrain and give you more grip. And
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we have a full mil lug on the outsole
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and in our own graphine grip, which is
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designed to last a lot longer, so more
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durable. If we move to the upper of the
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shoe, so all of our shoes feature our
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natural fit, which is basically an
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anatomical foot shape, so it allows your
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toes to play. That does a couple of
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things. It keeps you comfortable for
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longer, but it also lets you spread your
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weight uh more more naturally for a more
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kind of natural grounded feel and more
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agility.
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What? It's a very light material. And
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tell us how you keep that foot in.
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Yeah. So, this is a ballistic nylon. So,
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it it's uh very durable and holds up to
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abrasion, but to give it its form and
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rigidity, we have this 3D print process,
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which we print multiple layers. We can
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grade that up to up to 30 layers of
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print. And that gives you protection
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across the toe box, but it also uh
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provides structure across the top of the
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foot, so it locks you in like that. We
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have a slightly more transparent um
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layers in there as well. So that's all
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to just pull you in and lock you in. We
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have a stitch and turn conventional heel
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with a with a rigid heel counter to keep
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you firmly located over the midsole. So
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when you're running off camber, there's
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no tendency for your foot to roll over
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the midsole. It stays firmly located.
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One of our key features, this is a
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patent pending for us, but we have a
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anatomical um asymmetric uh heel
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profiling. So, if you look at the
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difference on the lateral side and the
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medial side, there's a difference there.
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And they're also slightly offset from
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each other, and that just mirrors your
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natural physiology of your ankle bones
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and and how you you're forming.
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So, would that um help people with uh
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who often struggle with
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Yes. Exactly. Yeah. And and as you move
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around,
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this is more Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. And as you move around on the
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terrain, so as the terrain's unnaturally
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moving, there's enough room to
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accommodate your your heelbone, so
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there's no irritation there. We've got a
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speed tongue, what we're referring to as
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a speed tongue, which is uh not
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gusseted, but it's um held in place here
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through the laces, and it's actually a
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3D tongue. So rather than using a flat
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piece of fabric, it's actually formed to
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be three-dimensional, wrap around your
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foot. And then we even have details like
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the speed uh lacing, which is notched to
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help prevent the laces coming undone. So
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yes, so this is the Trailfly Pro due
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coming in um autumn winter 26, but that
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will actually be a launch in August 2026
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ahead of UTMB. So pricing is uh UK 165,
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EU 170 and uh US 195
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currently.
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Currently we we'll see what happens over
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the tariffs. Yeah,
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thank you John. No problem. Thank you.
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Good to
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highlight so far. Thank you.